Thamar - Today it has been five years since themurder on Pim Fortuyn, Bayrou has scared the pants of french politicians too. I think the pushing of another reaty will be killing for confidence in politicians
p.kaczynski - and Harry Potter is still around... (Balkenende)
Simon (E!Sharp) - But people in Spain don't care enough it to cause too much trouble to Zap.
Teresa Kuchler (Europolitique) - the most urgent now is probably be to start a mandateperiod in 2009 with the right commmission- that is one with fewer commissioners .... oh no, youre wriong about spain,k it is one of zapateros headaches
p.kaczynski - especially since the Spanish tournout was very low
Simon (E!Sharp) - They voted yes on a low turnout and with very little debate. And they are more worried about their housing market crashing than EU traeties...
Thamar - The Dutch government tries to please the people by demanding that national parliaments will have more influencei n EU, but I think they will accept any deal
Teresa Kuchler (Europolitique) - yes- but they still have rules to follow...
p.kaczynski - los espanoles y europa
Teresa Kuchler (Europolitique) - doesnt matter, zapatero is not allowed to overturn a popular vote and put in what he wants through the back door
Simon (E!Sharp) - Just watch him...
p.kaczynski - but Teresa, it will not be puting down the spanish vote, it will about about something "new"
Teresa Kuchler (Europolitique) - anyways, they are all expecting to have it on place before 2009 mandate. why do you think the new commissioners have such ridiculous portfolios- so they can sack them, maybe
p.kaczynski - who are they?
Simon (E!Sharp) -Anyway, a new treaty won't contain anything new, it will just not contain everything in the old one.
Teresa Kuchler (Europolitique) - except God, lets hope it at least
p.kaczynski - polish president said he is not expecting the new treaty to enter into force before 2011
Simon (E!Sharp) - I don't think Sarko is about to allow God a place in the new treaty...